[Thursday] Interesting history

Randall Snow pleaseleaveamessage4me at gmail.com
Thu Feb 15 10:51:56 MST 2024


Yes, keep in mind that deforest had been engaged initially in the whole
endeavor. My recollection is that he was successful but that the system
wasn't reliable. He ran off to bigger and better things so massie was
employed to either improve the reliability or get it back into operation
(I'm not sure of the state when massie came in). If the rented building is
part of the story then perhaps its destruction was the cause for massie to
build the new building. These newspaper articles are great finds to try and
piece it together!

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 11:41 PM Chris Prata via Thursday <thursday at newsm.org>
wrote:

> interesting
>
> what were the frequencies used as those ranges increased? did they change
> (up into shortwave?) or did it stay longwave and then how were the gains
> from 45 miles to 500+ miles, better antenna and more power output only?
>
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> *Regards,*
> *Chris Prata*
>
>
> *Slava** Ukraini!*
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> *From:* Ken Carr <kb1awv at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:14 AM
> *To:* Vbob <vbob at whipplestreet.net>; Chris Prata <chrisprata at live.com>
> *Cc:* thursdaynewsm.org <thursday at newsm.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Thursday] Interesting history
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> I suspect the first station, located in a rented home as Len said,
> used all Marconi equipment.
>
> The PJ station that was built in 1907 (the one at the museum),
> used equipment built by Walter Massie and his employees.
> All the radio equipment presently in  the station is original Massie
> equipment with the exception of the huge power transformer
> which is a Marconi unit. Originally it would also have been a
> Massie unit. Somehow, it was lost.
>
> Most of the telegraph equipment in the station appears to be
> manufactured by other businesses which had been around
> for a long time, unlike radio which was a nine year phenomenon
> if we begin with Marconi’s first successes.
>
> When PJ opened the station had a range of anout 45 miles.
> By the time it was closed down (about 1911), it had a standard
> range of 550 miles and an occasional 1,500 miles due to
> variations in propagation  Range could easily be extended along the entire
> east coast
> by way of relays between stations that were all along both coasts.
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> On Monday, February 12, 2024, 5:38 AM, Vbob via Thursday <
> thursday at newsm.org> wrote:
>
> Interference? The two Point Judithstations used different systems, neither
> of which I know enough about…
> What was the effective range of these stations?
> If they were primarily for communicating with ships at sea (or islands….)
> did they still need to be as close to the shore as feasible?
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:01 AM, Chris Prata via Thursday <thursday at newsm.org>
> wrote:
>
> this is awesome find!  what history...  now the hunt begins for photos of
> prior building. also interesting it was being moved ½ mile... I wonder why
>
> *Regards,*
> *Chris Prata*
>
>
> *Slava** Ukraini!*
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> *From:* Thursday <thursday-bounces at newsm.org> on behalf of Leonard
> Arzoomanian via Thursday <thursday at newsm.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2024 4:24 PM
> *To:* thursdaynewsm.org <thursday at newsm.org>
> *Subject:* [Thursday] Interesting history
>
> Both the Providence Journal and the Woomsocket Call reported "Wireless
> Staion Burned" on October 26, 1907.
>
> Considering we have Station PJ, It means that there was another Station
> being used by the Peovidence Journal prior to 1908.
>
> Articles attached.
>
> Len
>
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