[Thursday] Two days?

Thu Oct 4 15:36:28 MDT 2018

I exhibit my models and one or two from the museum every August. I could do
that in EG but would need someone to manage the tables. Next year I want to
see more of our engines in the steam table.
Tim

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 5:26 PM David Crowell via Thursday <thursday at newsm.org>
wrote:

> I was pretty worn out after Steam-up this year, so I would have to give it
> some deep thought before signing up for a two day event. We don't seem to
> get a break all day. Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>
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> *From:* Randall Snow <pleaseleaveamessage4me at gmail.com>
> *To:* Michael Thompson <michael.99.thompson at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* David Crowell <ka1edp at yahoo.com>; David Caldwell <
> david.t.caldwell at gmail.com>; Thursday Group <Thursday at newsm.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2018 2:19 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Thursday] Two days?
>
> Interesting,  that is likely the day that I stopped in for the first time.
> You all had me hooked right from that rainy day!
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 11:55 AM Michael Thompson <
> michael.99.thompson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We had a very rainy day for Steam-Up a few years ago so attendance was
> very low.
> Bob decided to extend the Steam-Up for another day to see if we could get
> more people to attend when the weather was better.
> We did get more people to attend on Sunday, but it was tough on the NEWSM
> staff.
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:27 AM David Crowell via Thursday <
> thursday at newsm.org> wrote:
>
> As I recall, we did run Steam-up for two days once several years ago. I
> think it was a spur of the moment thing to open on Sunday per Bob. I think
> Saturday was a crummy day weather-wise with lots of food left over and Bob
> said lets do it. I don't recall much about this, but I think attendance was
> sparce. Warren or Mike may remember this. It probably wasn't advertised. As
> you mentioned, Sunday at CAMA had very few modeler's. How was CAMA
> attendance on Sunday, otherwise?
>
> Dave Crowell
>
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> *From:* Randall Snow via Thursday <thursday at newsm.org>
> *To:* David Caldwell <david.t.caldwell at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Thursday Group <thursday at newsm.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Thursday] Capacities
>
> This is something that has been on my mind in light of Saturday's success
> as well.  We can only hope to keep the momentum going and build it further
> next year, and need to be ready.
>
> There is one very big consideration that may alter the equation a bit.  I
> think we need to consider whether we should make this a 2 day event.
> Perhaps that change doesn't happen immediately, but perhaps in the very
> near future.  I realize completely that would be asking significantly more
> of the volunteers, and perhaps too much, but it needs to be discussed.  We
> have all of the arrangements made, and all of the components in place. A
> second day would hopefully alleviate some of the load on one day and allow
> more people to come who may have had a scheduling conflict on the
> Saturday.  Ideally it would equal more revenue and a less crowded
> experience on either day.
>
> Barring that. I would agree that we should begin clearing part of the
> racetrack.
>
> Admission ticketing is a problem.  We could simply eliminate the ticket
> tent along the driveway, get the cars in and parked, and then put a ticket
> booth at the head of the walkway.  It would have worked well for this year,
> but might be problematic if the sawmill is ever operational and visitors
> are back and forth a lot to see that.  I don't know if Warren and Dick had
> any Boy Scout assistance out there, but perhaps some younger hands would
> help speed it along in the configuration it's in now.  Walkie-talkies may
> help coordinate efforts among the parking crews in particular.
>
> It's absolutely true that we would have been dead without the Boy Scouts.
> They did an excellent job in both the parking field as well as with food
> service.  Steve has already made notes on how the layout and process of
> food service can be modified for next year to speed it up with fewer
> hands.  I have no doubt he will have that operating infinitely smoother
> next year.  That should free up some Boy Scouts, assuming we have them, for
> other tasks.
>
> We may have lost a few exhibitors to CAMA due to the scheduling overlap.
> Ernie and I went there on Sunday and I can say they had virtually no models
> on their tables.  The one guy who was there attending to his model was, I
> believe, a typical attendee of NEWSM.  Ryder was also there operating an
> engine, and the gentleman with the orange GMC truck and his steam engine.
> It was Sunday, we may have missed the bulk of it on Saturday, but from what
> we saw there wasn't a significant detraction.  Car clubs would be a great
> addition.  We may get in touch with some local clubs simply to see if they
> would like to piggyback on the day.
>
> I'm so glad that we're thinking through some of this now.  We have time to
> plan, we may as well take advantage of it.  The interest and enthusiasm
> that I heard from some of the visitors was amazing.  I really think we can
> continue to build upon this years' success with a little careful planning.
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:22 AM David Caldwell via Thursday <
> thursday at newsm.org> wrote:
>
> In the middle of the night I got to thinking about Steam-Up, what size we
> want it to be, and the our current capacity limits. Here are a few
> thoughts--please add more.
>
> Parking. It looks like we just touched our current max parking capacity
> this weekend. Several of you have suggested clearing more space around the
> racetrack. In the short term we might get a little more visitor space in
> the parking field by parking all the volunteers in the north end by the
> exhibitors gate.
>
> Admission gate. If we're backing up cars out to Tillinghast Rd, moving the
> ticketing a few feet up the road won't make much difference. We either need
> to move ticketing all the way to the top of the hill (at the entrance to
> the parking field) or broaden the lane where the ticketing is currently so
> the line could divide into two 'toll booths' for speedier processing. Or we
> could pre-sell tickets and open a gate (the exit gate) at the bottom of the
> parking field for people with tickets just in the morning. Or?
>
> Bathrooms. It seemed like we had enough, but still had a big line in Mayes
> Building sometimes. We need sign and map there to direct people to the
> portables. Also, a few years ago, instead of hiding the portables behind
> the Massie Station, we placed them 10 or so feet farther north, so the
> first ones were visible across the grounds. That and some Big Friendly
> Signs would help people find them.
>
> Food. The food line moved right along, never seemed to get out of hand.
> This a tribute to Steve and the Boy Scouts.
>
> Food tickets. We've trained our visitors so well that they lined up in the
> Mayes Building for food tickets. The new ticket station at the Food Tent
> was busy but not overloaded--we should promote it, to take some congestion
> out of the Mayes Bldg.
>
> Volunteers. We would have died without the Boy Scouts. As has been noted,
> we could use a few more knowledgeable adult volunteers for the Wireless
> Building. If we change the admission ticketing, we'll need extra coverage
> there. Anywhere else come to mind?
>
> Exhibit space. Seemed like there was still space on the model tables. Was
> steam and air adequate? There was open space for exhibitors along the rope,
> and we could have handled more old cars.
>
> Other thoughts?
>
>
> Dave
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